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	<title>Comments on: Real Families:  Meet My Co-Parent, Part I</title>
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		<title>By: Talibah Mbonisi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Talibah Mbonisi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa:  BTW, when I shared your comment with Ed, his response was that he completely got your point (re: how could someone *not* be attracted to him) and that it was a good thing I didn&#039;t post his photo or my comment section would be full of the same question.  Ha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa:  BTW, when I shared your comment with Ed, his response was that he completely got your point (re: how could someone *not* be attracted to him) and that it was a good thing I didn&#8217;t post his photo or my comment section would be full of the same question.  Ha!</p>
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		<title>By: Talibah Mbonisi</title>
		<link>http://www.weparent.com/2009/11/real-families-meet-my-co-parent-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1043</link>
		<dc:creator>Talibah Mbonisi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa, I thought the point you made was a really valuable one.  We tend to talk about co-parenting in terms of living apart and parenting together, but the truth is that it&#039;s co-parenting, period, when two parents are partnering.  I&#039;m reading a book now, that talks about that exact point and offers co-parenting guidance for married couples.  I&#039;m planning post a review as soon as I complete it.  When I spoke at UGA, I had the opportunity to talk to some faculty there doing research on these very topics.  So, know that I appreciate your perspective and share your determination to use the journey behind me to inspire the journey ahead!  Glad we&#039;re on it together!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa, I thought the point you made was a really valuable one.  We tend to talk about co-parenting in terms of living apart and parenting together, but the truth is that it&#8217;s co-parenting, period, when two parents are partnering.  I&#8217;m reading a book now, that talks about that exact point and offers co-parenting guidance for married couples.  I&#8217;m planning post a review as soon as I complete it.  When I spoke at UGA, I had the opportunity to talk to some faculty there doing research on these very topics.  So, know that I appreciate your perspective and share your determination to use the journey behind me to inspire the journey ahead!  Glad we&#8217;re on it together!</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Maria Carroll</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa Maria Carroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, I want my children to be emotionally healthy adults, even if it means I have to do the work now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, I want my children to be emotionally healthy adults, even if it means I have to do the work now.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Maria Carroll</title>
		<link>http://www.weparent.com/2009/11/real-families-meet-my-co-parent-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1039</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Maria Carroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talibah, please accept my comment as the compliment that it was intended. The work that you and Deesha do and have done is phenomenal, and you complement each other well. I would never suggest that you abandon your baby here. But your (hard) work could certainly serve as a blueprint for marriage counselors who counsel parents who are at odds on how to raise their children, and it&#039;s driving a wedge in their marriage. 

I agree with both of you when it comes to post-breakup boundaries. When the thrill was gone for me, it was gone. Unfortunately, I can&#039;t say the same for my ex. And he used that as an excuse for not coming around. I didn&#039;t need or want post-divorce sex. But I know that had I offered it in exchange for him spending time with his children, he would have come around more. 

So, while the two of you are making this journey in drive, I&#039;m traveling in reverse. As a 41-year-old woman who was raised by a single mother, with no help from daddy, the information the two of you provide is helping me to identify and process my own issues regarding what they did and didn&#039;t do as parents. Likewise, as a mother of adult children who refer to their father as, &quot;Your dumb babby daddy,&quot; I know that there&#039;s residue there. And I don&#039;t want them to feel like they must have an allegiance to me for making the choice to stay. Likewise, I want to respect their right to feel the way they do, knowing that he wasn&#039;t there by choice. 

And believe me, it is a process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talibah, please accept my comment as the compliment that it was intended. The work that you and Deesha do and have done is phenomenal, and you complement each other well. I would never suggest that you abandon your baby here. But your (hard) work could certainly serve as a blueprint for marriage counselors who counsel parents who are at odds on how to raise their children, and it&#8217;s driving a wedge in their marriage. </p>
<p>I agree with both of you when it comes to post-breakup boundaries. When the thrill was gone for me, it was gone. Unfortunately, I can&#8217;t say the same for my ex. And he used that as an excuse for not coming around. I didn&#8217;t need or want post-divorce sex. But I know that had I offered it in exchange for him spending time with his children, he would have come around more. </p>
<p>So, while the two of you are making this journey in drive, I&#8217;m traveling in reverse. As a 41-year-old woman who was raised by a single mother, with no help from daddy, the information the two of you provide is helping me to identify and process my own issues regarding what they did and didn&#8217;t do as parents. Likewise, as a mother of adult children who refer to their father as, &#8220;Your dumb babby daddy,&#8221; I know that there&#8217;s residue there. And I don&#8217;t want them to feel like they must have an allegiance to me for making the choice to stay. Likewise, I want to respect their right to feel the way they do, knowing that he wasn&#8217;t there by choice. </p>
<p>And believe me, it is a process.</p>
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		<title>By: Deesha</title>
		<link>http://www.weparent.com/2009/11/real-families-meet-my-co-parent-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1036</link>
		<dc:creator>Deesha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>**If in person, how do you get to that place where you’re comfortable enough sitting in the same room, having a civilized conversation about something other than your child without someone feeling some sort of attraction?**

While everybody is different, I think in some cases the attraction fades, or it just morphs into something else.  I see my ex as a platonic friend now.  Or, the attraction remains, and you just don&#039;t act on it.

That said, your question doesn&#039;t surprise me because some &quot;ex&quot; couples/co-parents continue with the booty calls long after the relationship is allegedly over.  However, for some of us, it&#039;s a clean break.  It was easy for me; I know for other people, it&#039;s hard not to want to go back for a &quot;taste&quot; esp. if attraction/intimacy issues did not contribute to the break up.

**Why not get training that will keep families together rather than piece things together after the break up?**

Some of us aren&#039;t as equipped as we could have/should have been to build a successful marriage, but marriages fall apart for all sorts of reasons, some of which training could not prevent.  In-tact families should get all the support and resources they need to thrive, and those that are post-break-up should be equipped to do the best they can by their kids as well.  I don&#039;t believe it&#039;s an either or proposition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>**If in person, how do you get to that place where you’re comfortable enough sitting in the same room, having a civilized conversation about something other than your child without someone feeling some sort of attraction?**</p>
<p>While everybody is different, I think in some cases the attraction fades, or it just morphs into something else.  I see my ex as a platonic friend now.  Or, the attraction remains, and you just don&#8217;t act on it.</p>
<p>That said, your question doesn&#8217;t surprise me because some &#8220;ex&#8221; couples/co-parents continue with the booty calls long after the relationship is allegedly over.  However, for some of us, it&#8217;s a clean break.  It was easy for me; I know for other people, it&#8217;s hard not to want to go back for a &#8220;taste&#8221; esp. if attraction/intimacy issues did not contribute to the break up.</p>
<p>**Why not get training that will keep families together rather than piece things together after the break up?**</p>
<p>Some of us aren&#8217;t as equipped as we could have/should have been to build a successful marriage, but marriages fall apart for all sorts of reasons, some of which training could not prevent.  In-tact families should get all the support and resources they need to thrive, and those that are post-break-up should be equipped to do the best they can by their kids as well.  I don&#8217;t believe it&#8217;s an either or proposition.</p>
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		<title>By: Talibah Mbonisi</title>
		<link>http://www.weparent.com/2009/11/real-families-meet-my-co-parent-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1034</link>
		<dc:creator>Talibah Mbonisi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa:  This interview was over the phone, but he lives 10 minutes from me and I see and speak to him regularly, even about deeper things than this.  For me, the fact is just that as much as I love Ed as my friend and parenting partner, I&#039;m over our relationship.  As difficult as it may be to believe, my perception of him is no longer as a romantic partner, so those feelings just don&#039;t come up for me.  I can&#039;t speak for him, but I can say that since before he moved out, Ed and I have never so much as held hands.  We didn&#039;t make our decision to split lightly and we respected it once we made it, even when other people may not have.  I&#039;ll ask him for his take on this.  Additionally, if we had been sitting there attracted to one another, I don&#039;t know that that would matter.  Attraction is.  So what?  Meaning that mature adults can sit in the same space feeling attraction and still handle business, respect boundaries and be powerful unromantic partners, at least that has been my experience.  We can&#039;t erase attraction, so we let it be and keep it moving.

And, I agree with your point that we should support the healing of relationships when the parents are together.  Of course, this isn&#039;t that site, but I applaud and support the tremendous work being done all over that focuses on doing just that, sites like Black and Married with Children, and programs like the Program for Strong African-American Marriage are just two.  But, I know that what my family needs right now is to learn how to create an environment where we can be whole and loved and powerful in our current form.  My hope is that through the growth and work that Ed and  I do in our parenting partnership and subsequent romantic, and perhaps marital, relationships, our son *will* be able to choose and maintain a happy-ever-after relationship with the &quot;right&quot; partner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa:  This interview was over the phone, but he lives 10 minutes from me and I see and speak to him regularly, even about deeper things than this.  For me, the fact is just that as much as I love Ed as my friend and parenting partner, I&#8217;m over our relationship.  As difficult as it may be to believe, my perception of him is no longer as a romantic partner, so those feelings just don&#8217;t come up for me.  I can&#8217;t speak for him, but I can say that since before he moved out, Ed and I have never so much as held hands.  We didn&#8217;t make our decision to split lightly and we respected it once we made it, even when other people may not have.  I&#8217;ll ask him for his take on this.  Additionally, if we had been sitting there attracted to one another, I don&#8217;t know that that would matter.  Attraction is.  So what?  Meaning that mature adults can sit in the same space feeling attraction and still handle business, respect boundaries and be powerful unromantic partners, at least that has been my experience.  We can&#8217;t erase attraction, so we let it be and keep it moving.</p>
<p>And, I agree with your point that we should support the healing of relationships when the parents are together.  Of course, this isn&#8217;t that site, but I applaud and support the tremendous work being done all over that focuses on doing just that, sites like Black and Married with Children, and programs like the Program for Strong African-American Marriage are just two.  But, I know that what my family needs right now is to learn how to create an environment where we can be whole and loved and powerful in our current form.  My hope is that through the growth and work that Ed and  I do in our parenting partnership and subsequent romantic, and perhaps marital, relationships, our son *will* be able to choose and maintain a happy-ever-after relationship with the &#8220;right&#8221; partner.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Maria Carroll</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa Maria Carroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talibah, Did you and Ed do this interview in person or over-the-phone? If in person, how do you get to that place where you&#039;re comfortable enough sitting in the same room, having a civilized conversation about something other than your child without someone feeling some sort of attraction? That&#039;s hard for men and women to do even when they don&#039;t have a child together. 

I agree that married parents could benefit from co-parenting training. Why not get training that will keep families together rather than piece things together after the break up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talibah, Did you and Ed do this interview in person or over-the-phone? If in person, how do you get to that place where you&#8217;re comfortable enough sitting in the same room, having a civilized conversation about something other than your child without someone feeling some sort of attraction? That&#8217;s hard for men and women to do even when they don&#8217;t have a child together. </p>
<p>I agree that married parents could benefit from co-parenting training. Why not get training that will keep families together rather than piece things together after the break up?</p>
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		<title>By: Talibah Mbonisi</title>
		<link>http://www.weparent.com/2009/11/real-families-meet-my-co-parent-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-980</link>
		<dc:creator>Talibah Mbonisi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holly:  Thanks for the kind words about Ed and me.  Trust that it was (I have the nastigrams to prove it) and continues to be a journey.  I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s easier, because we don&#039;t live together.  I think the dynamics are just different.  I wish it were easier, then maybe more parents would be consciously, proactively and positively co-parenting.  What I&#039;m pretty certain of is that many of the issues that tripped us up as co-parents were issues when we were living together.  So, co-parenting isn&#039;t just about divorce/separation/two households.  Many married couples could stand to work on this, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holly:  Thanks for the kind words about Ed and me.  Trust that it was (I have the nastigrams to prove it) and continues to be a journey.  I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s easier, because we don&#8217;t live together.  I think the dynamics are just different.  I wish it were easier, then maybe more parents would be consciously, proactively and positively co-parenting.  What I&#8217;m pretty certain of is that many of the issues that tripped us up as co-parents were issues when we were living together.  So, co-parenting isn&#8217;t just about divorce/separation/two households.  Many married couples could stand to work on this, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You and Ed each  seem to work hard to understand and respect the other, and look for win-win solutions that honor your son.   You&#039;ve got to really check egos at the door to do this well.    Hmmm. . . I think that can be a lot easier to do when you don&#039;t live with your children&#039;s other parent!  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You and Ed each  seem to work hard to understand and respect the other, and look for win-win solutions that honor your son.   You&#8217;ve got to really check egos at the door to do this well.    Hmmm. . . I think that can be a lot easier to do when you don&#8217;t live with your children&#8217;s other parent!  <img src='http://www.weparent.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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